How many times have you heard this: “Yes, regenerative agriculture’s all well and good, but you couldn’t feed the world that way”. . Today, in the podcast, we speak to the man who is building a roadmap to show us that *it could*. . Sir Patrick Holden runs the Sustainable Food Trust who have just published a report that shows how Britain could feed itself using pesticide and fertiliser-free, animal-involved agriculture whilst feeding grain to humans, not animals. . We talk about all the details, how this can be taken global, lab meat, how we can create change as individuals and much more. . We’re so grateful to Sir Patrick for sharing his 50-year experience as both a dairy farmer and an activist. Subscribe to @ancestralkitchenpodcast from your podcast app or stream/download from the link in my profile.