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	Comments on: When I read Rebecca Holden&#8217;s article about how she has become &#8216;one of the herd&#8217; at the dairy farm she looks after, I was mesmerised and knew I wanted to bring her and her work to listeners of @ancestralkitchenpodcast.
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Our chat touched me; I was left in awe of the daily life of @hafodcheese. I learnt much about the incredible sensitivity of the cows, how Rebecca communicates with them and what they&#8217;ve taught her. She showed me how it&#8217;s *all* interconnected &#8211; the landscape, the cows, the husbandry, the team, the milkings&#8230;they all create the beautiful raw cheese produced onsite (which I&#8217;m really hoping to try this summer!).
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We also talked about another thing super-exciting to me: the heritage black oats that the farm is including in its rotation as part of the @thegaiafoundation revival project.
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